Eurogamer gives unexpected shout-out to SoH in article on upcoming MOBA

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Eurogamer gives unexpected shout-out to SoH in article on upcoming MOBA

Postby Banished Archangel » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:20 pm

Eurogamer posted an article detailing how NCSoft is coming out with a MOBA game and it will feature the legendary Statesman.

What an arrogant slap in the face to still-grieving CoH players by NCSoft!

Anyway, Eurogamer gave an unexpected shout-out to SoH at the end of the article!

Kudos to Eurogamer for also announcing the date of SoH's Kickstarter as well!

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Re: Eurogamer gives unexpected shout-out to SoH in article on upcoming MOBA

Postby Pyrion » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:12 am

I just hope that they are wrong about the alpha starting 2018... i think the devs said that alpha might start shortly after kickstarter.

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Re: Eurogamer gives unexpected shout-out to SoH in article on upcoming MOBA

Postby Penniguin » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:32 pm

From Pyroin's mouth to the Dev's ears!
I am gonna need to stop for coffee before we head out for the battle. 8-)

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Re: Eurogamer gives unexpected shout-out to SoH in article on upcoming MOBA

Postby Consultant » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:01 am

Pyrion,

I think we've said that there will be a series of Alphas -- we use the Alphas to learn things, after all -- and they will start late in 2017 and run into 2018, depending upon how they go. Right after the KS we need 90-120 days to settle the KS rewards, get hold of the money, make some hires, and initiate some new code projects within the game. In other words, we need to expand the team, get everyone onboarded, and then run to the next stage of development.

I also described what I thought might be our first Alphas -- escorted small teams who run through Apotheosis City fighting enemies and getting XP until they level up. This would be Kickstarter donors playing with devs. We expect to learn as much from the conversations, as from the game play when this goes on.

So stay tuned! Once the Kickstarter succeeds, we will be moving forward towards the day when our backers can play the game!

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Re: Eurogamer gives unexpected shout-out to SoH in article on upcoming MOBA

Postby Consultant » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:16 am

The Eurogamer article was a plus for us. We never actually spoke to them, but they seem to have understood our situation extremely well. And we love the plug they gave us for our Kickstarter.

The thing about the return of Statesman is that it does not address the fundamental losses that all of us who played City of Heroes experienced. We lost our stories -- both the ones we wrote and the ones in the game. We lost our community, and there has not been another game that was as positive, as non-toxic, as the COH community (at least for me). We lost the record of our achievements, what we did with those now-lost characters in those lost stories, as part of our lost community.

Bringing back an NPC from COH does not address those issues for those of us who played COH. It's simply a reminder of our loss. Of course NC Soft has the right to bring back Statesman -- I can even see how this is a good marketing move for them -- they own that IP. And MOBAs are popular games, so maybe this will be a success for them.

But for those of us who are thinking back, and also looking forward, what we want is to discover a new game where the elements of the community that we previously enjoyed can be recovered. Where we can create new characters and new stories. For me, as an individual, I can say that the reason I am working to create Ship of Heroes is because I want to play it.

That's what I think, when I see Statesman (Tyrant) returns, in a new game from NC Soft.

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Re: Eurogamer gives unexpected shout-out to SoH in article on upcoming MOBA

Postby GladDog » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:43 am

As a beta to shuttering player, I was rather... disturbed... by the 'return' of Statesman. If you look at the MMO sites out there like MMORPG.com you see that I was not the only one to feel that way.

I am pretty sure that the 'return' of Statesman was done for legal reasons - It has been almost 5 years since the shuttering and they probably needed to claim their trademark on the IP. That does not mean it is any easier to swallow than Cod Liver Oil...

Here is a thread I was highly involved in on MMORPG.com about this subject.

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Re: Eurogamer gives unexpected shout-out to SoH in article on upcoming MOBA

Postby JestersGhost » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:24 pm

The thing about the return of Statesman is that it does not address the fundamental losses that all of us who played City of Heroes experienced. We lost our stories -- both the ones we wrote and the ones in the game. We lost our community, and there has not been another game that was as positive, as non-toxic, as the COH community (at least for me). We lost the record of our achievements, what we did with those now-lost characters in those lost stories, as part of our lost community.
After playing CoH for it's entire life-span, with easily 50% of that time on only two characters that I had tweaked and chosen and guided, that had history in their badges and all the rest, with SG base all my own I'd slowly built-up and decorated...to have all that ripped away from me felt like losing part of myself.

Combined with the friendliness of the community, the refreshingly different style of play (everything just copied WoW after it's success, and I've never liked how it plays) and it's approachable devs, CoH was (hopefully until now) truly one-of-a-kind.

NCSoft will never get another penny from me. I understand business necessities - if CoH had been a drain or a losing proposition...sure. I'd understand. But to have to closed for the reason it was, so abruptly. Sorry, but no.
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Re: Eurogamer gives unexpected shout-out to SoH in article on upcoming MOBA

Postby Griffin » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:53 pm

The Eurogamer article was a plus for us. We never actually spoke to them, but they seem to have understood our situation extremely well. And we love the plug they gave us for our Kickstarter.

The thing about the return of Statesman is that it does not address the fundamental losses that all of us who played City of Heroes experienced. We lost our stories -- both the ones we wrote and the ones in the game. We lost our community, and there has not been another game that was as positive, as non-toxic, as the COH community (at least for me). We lost the record of our achievements, what we did with those now-lost characters in those lost stories, as part of our lost community.

Bringing back an NPC from COH does not address those issues for those of us who played COH. It's simply a reminder of our loss. Of course NC Soft has the right to bring back Statesman -- I can even see how this is a good marketing move for them -- they own that IP. And MOBAs are popular games, so maybe this will be a success for them.

But for those of us who are thinking back, and also looking forward, what we want is to discover a new game where the elements of the community that we previously enjoyed can be recovered. Where we can create new characters and new stories. For me, as an individual, I can say that the reason I am working to create Ship of Heroes is because I want to play it.

That's what I think, when I see Statesman (Tyrant) returns, in a new game from NC Soft.
THIS.
This and responses like this.
This vision, this PLAN, this goal.
This is why I am behind thie SoH project and none of the others. I'm not against anyone, I don't wish anyone ill. I'm sad at my/our loss and want to have a place to rebuild.

You go Consultant!
You're already my hero. =D

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