Story Bible and clarifications

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Story Bible and clarifications

Postby broxen » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:08 pm

Hello Devs!

In an effort to flesh out the information at sohwiki.com, I've come across many pieces of contradictory information on the Official Ship of Heroes Website, the Kickstarter and several online articles. As a result, I find myself with a multitude of questions. I'm hoping to open a dialog here to compile and discuss some of these questions.

If anyone else has any questions, please add them here as well

My plan is to edit this main post frequently with new questions as they come up.


April 22, 2017 - Post Creation

Story Bible
Is there a Story Bible the Devs have for the setting and lore? In writing, this is a master reference for the setting, major characters, places, and lore. Obviously we wouldn't have access to this kind of top secret info, but let me dream about it existing on someone's hard drive somewhere!

Hero Corps or Justice Corps?
On the page Meet The Ambassador, you call this organization The Hero Corps, however on the pages introducing Sword Blossom, Doctor Strikewell and Meltdown, you refer to it as Justice Corps. Are they the same organization? What is the proper name?

The Diplomats
On the page introducing Doctor Strikewell, you mention The Ambassador as part of a supergroup called The Diplomats. Who are they and what is their function?

List of current Powersets
Can you share a list of current Powersets?

List of current Organizations/Villain Groups - ANSWERED
Can you share a list of current Villain Groups?
[As of May 2017], there are only the Nagdelians and the Prometheans. They are working on two more groups they will have in the game before the end of the year.


Map of Apotheosis City
Can you share a map of the first zone?

The Orensans
On the page for Meltdown, you mention that he is half alien. Can you tell me more about the Orensan and their origins?

Powers
In the combat and Kickstarter videos you demonstrate combat (awesome!!) with several power names shown. Are these names final, placeholders, or a mix of both?

The Starboard Lounge
Is the Starboard Lounge a real location in Apotheosis City and where is it located? Will it be like Pocket D in CoH, or more of a cafe?

What level of the ship is Apotheosis City? - ANSWERED
I read somewhere that it was on level 20 near the engines, though this seems like where you would place less valuable cargo in the event of engine explosion/failure. Also, I can't find this mention again to corroborate my (terrible) memory. Can you confirm?
Apotheosis City is the level right above the engine area. There is a lot of shielding and underground area between the engines and the city. You can see for yourself in the video that shows the Justice in space on this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sinx_e5IfGc


The Hazard Zone
In several sources there are mentions of a hazard zone across a lake from the Arch. What makes a hazard zone? How is the main city level of the ship so dangerous? What makes it dangerous? Why doesn't the danger spread to the city across the lake?


April 24, 2017 - Round 2

Dark Magic Cyborgs - PARTIALLY ANSWERED
Elsewhere on the forums, it has been mentioned that the second Villain Group will be Dark Magic using Cyborgs. Can you confirm the existence of this group? Where are they from? What do they want? What do they call themselves?
These aliens are called Prometheans.
Their origin and motivations are still unknown.

They cannot reveal anything about the Prometheans without spoiling the encounter for new players. But let it be known they have an extensive and very interesting backstory.


Nagdelians or Nagdellians? - PARTIALLY ANSWERED
Several sources spell this organization with one L, but in the game footage GIF of Meltdowns Plasma Blast ability, the soldier is spelled with two L's. What is the proper spelling?
All subsequent material released had spelled this with one 'L' which seems to indicate the in-game footage contained a typo. This makes sense as it appears to be an anagram of 'Dang Aliens'

Shield for Ambassador?
In video and art Ambassador is shown with an orange-red shield which he appears to use for defense. His introduction page states his powersets as Determination and Street Sweeping. It's stated elsewhere that Tankers have a defensive Primary. That all said, does Determination include the shield power or is this an Ancillary Power, or Unique Power for Signature Heroes? Is it a toggle power that remains active providing defense? What part of the power is color customizable, the orange, blue, or both?

Other City Levels? - Asked by KidRad
- Is there more than one city in the ship, besides apotheosis city? Similarly, you say there is a "below deck", yet apotheosis city is situated above engineering. So won't it technically be above deck, or just another level? Basically how is the ship laid out overall, and where are the different levels in relation to each other?

How does Agriculture work and is there an agricultural level? - Asked by KidRad
- You mention a level with agriculture. Does this mean there will there be farming, and if so, how will that work? Will it be high tech vertical farming, or more primitive " the Martian" style farming in dirt with tools? I have expertise in this area if you need consultation on how to design it to make it realistic.

Other Servers? Are the FHS Liberty and FHS Freedom potentially future servers? - Asked by KidRad - ANSWERED
- In terms of servers, have you considered making it a fleet of ships, rather than just one ship? That way, at the outset, there will be the FHS Justice, and as servers are added, you can pick other ships (servers) to play on.
The game will be on a megaserver platform, it will be highly unlikely that there will be any other ships (servers). They are planning on using Amazon server services, so they have no idea yet of the location where the game will be hosted. It would not surprise me if eventually we would visit other ships, but they will not be the settings for other servers unless they develop foreign language servers in the future.


April 26, 2017 - Round 3

Meltdown's Costume Change - ANSWERED
In early concept art, Meltdown has a costume of predominantly Gold with red accents and highlights. Later in-game screenshots depict a costume that is the exact opposite. Another podcast mentions giving him a cape. Are all the signature heroes still evolving during development? Has Meltdown's costume been finalized?
The signature heroes will continue to evolve. Right now they are adding more basic human models, which will affect several of the signature heroes.


May 26, 2017 - Round 4

The Harvest Pit
The Settings page of the Official Site mentions a zone called the Harvest Pit, which contains a variety of plant and wildlife for players to explore, harvest, and (presumably) run missions. Can you provide any additional details about this zone? Where is it located on the ship? What are the level requirements? Will there be missions there? What kind of terrain, weather, fauna, flora? Is this one of the so-called agricultural zones?

The Character Creator - ANSWERED
Will the character creator be released early as a standalone beta for the community?
Yes. The timeline lists September as when the alpha version will be available to those who have donated to the game to a certain level. The beta version will be available to others later. Keep in mind this will be an ALPHA version. There will be things that are not perfect, and the dev team will welcome both kudos and concerns.


Statues in Hero Square - PARTIALLY ANSWERED
Who do the statues in hero square represent? What are they known for? Do they have names?
This video calls the pair "The Hill of the Beginning," which represents the last fight between heroes with secret identities. h/t to Dying Breath

Story Plaques
Do you intend to have some variation of story plaques from City of Heroes? Will there be "badges" or rewards associated with reading them?

Badges - ANSWERED
Will there be some kind of Badge system. What will you call them? How do they function? Do any provide bonuses or temp. powers? How do you earn them

In this thread, The Consultant answered this question:

There will definitely badges: for exploring the game, for kills, for key achievements, for a variety of stuff. :)

We love badges -- and they need to be viewable by other players with a click or two.


Exploration Badges - PARTIALLY ANSWERED
Will there be rewards for exploring zones? Will they be location markers similar to City of Heroes exploration badges, or will it be more percentage of map explored? Or both?
See Badges above

Crafting - ANSWERED
It's been mentioned that crafting will exist in the game in one form or another. What is the intention there? How detailed will it be? Will it be necessary to reaching end game or participating in endgame content? Will it release at launch, or in a later patch?
The game will release with very limited crafting, mostly the ability to make temp powers is what we will be able to do. These temp powers will be very important in game, as self buffs and additions to your arsenal. For example, people that choose Super Speed or Teleport for a travel power will very likely want to make or purchase a jet pack to get to difficult areas of the map. Melee-centric ATs will have a blaster, but it will be weak at first. Crafting grenades may be a very worthwhile thing for them. Squishies may want to craft a temp power that improves their defense for a specific length of time. These temp powers can be tailored to your mission, which is very nice.


Movement Powers
Will movement powers be awarded immediately, or at a early-level as in City of Heroes?

Loot
How will loot drops work? What will loot consist of? Will you have to loot bodies or will awards automatically appear in your inventory? Do you share loot in a group, or is the award mechanism specific to each individual?

Augments
Is this the official name for "Enhancements"? Are they level ranged, as in CoH? Do they drop as loot? Can they be crafted? Are they awarded for completing Missions? Can they be combined, sold, or traded?

Inspirations - PARTIALLY ANSWERED
Is there a similar mechanic to CoH inspirations? What will they be called? How will they function? Can they be combined, sold, or traded?
The devs have confirmed that some form of temporary boost will exist, but it's currently unclear what it will be called or how it will function.

Auction House
I read somewhere the name of the auction house but now can't seem to find it. What is this called in-game and is it a global system, or local (zone) system?

Influence (Currency)
How does currency work in the game? What is it called?
It is called DUST. It is leftover processed Unobtainium that is used as a currency on the ship.


More to come... :D
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Re: Story Bible and clarifications

Postby Eulb » Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:35 am

Question ... are you heading up the Wiki posting endeavor for i don't see any soh wiki...
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Re: Story Bible and clarifications

Postby broxen » Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:50 am

Question ... are you heading up the Wiki posting endeavor for i don't see any soh wiki...
Unofficially. I sort of just started compiling info out of a desire to know more about the game and story. It spawned from another forum topic here about magic origins for heroes in the game.

I bought the URL sohwiki.com and started adding information. It's still very much in it's infancy, but the work I've done is generating these questions in my head and I feel like others might like to know as well.
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Re: Story Bible and clarifications

Postby Eulb » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:25 am

WOW i just looked at you sight and way cool ill look into helping , ill enjoy the new experience ...

Have you dropped consultant a line in the forms, and told him what you'er planing and have done ...

I'm hoping that this is coming from your heart , because getting paid does not look like any thing in the future ... i do not want to even entertain the thought of a monetary compensation , i just want to be part of the Adventure.
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Re: Story Bible and clarifications

Postby Kid Rad » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:35 am

I'll just say first of all, great job on the wiki. Lots of great info there. Nice work.

Good questions overall. Here are a couple that come to mind for me, after reading the wiki:

- Is there more than one city in the ship, besides apotheosis city? Similarly, you say there is a "below deck", yet apotheosis city is situated above engineering. So won't it technically be above deck, or just another level? Basically how is the ship laid out overall, and where are the different levels in relation to each other?

- You mention a level with agriculture. Does this mean there will there be farming, and if so, how will that work? Will it be high tech vertical farming, or more primitive " the Martian" style farming in dirt with tools? I have expertise in this area if you need consultation on how to design it to make it realistic.

- In terms of servers, have you considered making it a fleet of ships, rather than just one ship? That way, at the outset, there will be the FHS Justice, and as servers are added, you can pick other ships (servers) to play on.

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Re: Story Bible and clarifications

Postby JestersGhost » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:33 am

- In terms of servers, have you considered making it a fleet of ships, rather than just one ship? That way, at the outset, there will be the FHS Justice, and as servers are added, you can pick other ships (servers) to play on.
There are other ships - FHS Justice was one of the first, however. Not sure it makes sense to have other ships be other servers, as different ships would presumably have different layouts, flight-plans (ie. be visiting different planets at different times), etc.
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Re: Story Bible and clarifications

Postby GladDog » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:37 am

There weren't any plans to include more ships in gameplay, they are there for lore. None of them other than the Justice have been named yet. I have a suspicion that other ships would be settings for major expansions (City of Villains type expansions) or sequels.
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Re: Story Bible and clarifications

Postby broxen » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:18 am

I'll just say first of all, great job on the wiki. Lots of great info there. Nice work.
Thanks Kid Rad! Good questions!

There weren't any plans to include more ships in gameplay, they are there for lore. None of them other than the Justice have been named yet. I have a suspicion that other ships would be settings for major expansions (City of Villains type expansions) or sequels.
Fun thing I learned while building out this wiki: at least two other ships DO have names.

From the official SoH game setting page:
The biggest and most famous of these heroships are the FHS Justice, the FHS Freedom, and the FHS Liberty. Our story revolves around the humans aboard the heroship FHS Justice.
No indication whether the other ships will be playable, or if they are other servers, or what...

That has been the most interesting part of all of this, I've learned more about the game by trying to connect the pieces together. It's been fun, but it's also shown me that large parts of the game aren't well defined (publicly, who knows what's going on behind the scenes).
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Re: Story Bible and clarifications

Postby Kid Rad » Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:22 pm

Reading about the other two ships was what made me ask that question actually. The fact that they have the exact same names as some CoH servers was another part of what made me think of it. For lore purposes, the other ships could be identical in lay out, and all launched at the same time, and travel as a unit, thus have the same flight plans, have the same alien invasions, etc.

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Re: Story Bible and clarifications

Postby GladDog » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:04 pm

Hmm if they ever launch a EU server, then the HMS Defiant would be an excellent ship name! Defiant was the most populated Eu CoH server, and it is a ship name from Star Trek (the ship that was lost to the Tholians in the TOS S3 episode 'The Tholian Web' and the OP escort from DS9).
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Re: Story Bible and clarifications

Postby broxen » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:05 pm

Added Second Round of Questions... More are coming as I continue.

Also, I really enjoy the discussion​ here so keep it going. And if anyone knows the answer to these questions and can link me to videos, interviews, or blogs with details, I'd greatly appreciate it.
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Re: Story Bible and clarifications

Postby JestersGhost » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:22 am

Dark Magic Cyborgs
Elsewhere on the forums, it has been mentioned that the second Villain Group will be Dark Magic using Cyborgs. Can you confirm the existence of this group? Where are they from? What do they want? What do they call themselves?
They're the enemy group in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iobYxy86ykk
So, yes to the existence :P I haven't seen any answers to the other questions so far.
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Re: Story Bible and clarifications

Postby GladDog » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:38 am

There has to be a shout out on the wiki to the supernatural robot alien gang members made famous in the Starboard Lounge!

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=242&start=30

You know that will be a running gag for months after release.

The original mention of the supernatural robot alien gang members is here, as a bit of a joke...

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Re: Story Bible and clarifications

Postby Consultant » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:01 am

The funniest part is that we always intended for gangs of robots to be enemies. Unobtanium affects them too, and some are infused with a human-hostile free will and murderous intent. They could begin modifying their unaffected kin. Now we just need the supernatural element...

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Re: Story Bible and clarifications

Postby Eulb » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:29 pm

well the "Supernatural robot alien gang members " mentions in the growing story and toon expression in "Starboard lounge" is a better shortened to SRAG 's and .... thats easier to remember .... at least for me !!!!
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